Wal-Mart - 2007/03/29 02:54What's the stat? Wal-Mart creates about 300 jobs but causes x number of small businesses to go out of business, with a loss of 250 jobs. So, in the end equation, Wal-Mart brings 50 jobs to a community.
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Tesseract
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/29 13:42Take it further Mindme. Now with all the money that people save they now have more money to spend and spend it on more/other things which causes an increase in production to fill that extra money being spent which causes more people to be hired and creating more jobs in the long run.
Why didn't people raise this same ruckus when K-mart caused small businesses to go out of business in the 1960's? I lived in a small town in the 60's and had to buy things from the small businesses. Until K-mart came along the small businesses did not have any competition and could charge what they wanted to charge.
Wal mart has actually streamlined the logistics/delivery process. Wal mart has reduced costs by how they do business and other businesses can use them as an expample.
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Pentomino
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/29 13:58I live in the large city of Phoenix, where there are always enough alternatives that Wal-Mart doesn't serve as some kind of job-eating juggernaut.
For me, Wal-Mart is a place you just shouldn't choose to shop at if a choice is available, because not all of those savings are due to efficiency. You know how Wal-Mart only sells CD's with the profanity edited out, so CD companies have to produce a Wal-Mart version of everything? Well, that market leverage is used to sell substandard versions of other products. I have a gun collector friend who clearly explained one such instance in his livejournal; I'll look it up when I have time.
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JoMadge
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/29 18:19In my city, Wal-Mart is just ... a department store. Surrounded by other department stores, a huge mall, dozens of grocery stores, etc. It's a good place to shop for certain things, but not for others.
The only "mom and pop" businesses I've seen fold around here were a couple used book stores that couldn't compete with Half Price, and a few antique stores that never really gained a foot hold. The Wal-Mart in my neighborhood took over the space that used to be a K-Mart. The smaller businesses around the space were delighted when Wal-Mart took it over and started drawing more customers into their vicinity again.
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mindme
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/30 04:33Yeah they say if you want to defend against Walmart, just beat them on the "price conscious items". All consumers have about 2 dozen items in their brain that they know is a good price. Walmart is not particularly cheap outside of these items.
And I don't even want to talk about the abortion Walmart laid in Korea.
Well, not right now.
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Snerd
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/30 13:08*WARNING!* A joke that is in poor taste is approaching.
John Edwards hates Wal-Mart because it killed his son and gave his wife cancer.
I do love that he hates it so much, yet he's not above having his assistants shop there for him. That'd be like Lincoln saying "Nigger" wouldn't it?
I'm not anti-Wal-Mart in the least. I live in North Carolina. In 1999, my town got flooded. A lot of the stores in town and in the surrounding areas were just destroyed. We got a Wal-Mart in 2000. It gave us a place to get stuff like groceries and clothes and other essentials. It has also put a lot of jobs into the town. It's brought more people into the town to spend money and that's kept the town from raising property taxes which are already so high that we can't attract too many businesses. If anything, Wal-Mart saved my town. Granted, there isn't much to it because it's a small town, but it made things better instead of worse. The shops downtown are still okay. Their only problem is that downtown is the worst place for any business now. The place you want to be is near the highway so you can get more traffic around your business. The traffic getting to Wal-Mart is so heavy that the state is putting in another road from a country route to Wal-Mart. This is supposed to ease some of the congestion around the area and will draw in even more people. Wal-Mart has been a great thing for my town. Most of the anti-Wal-Mart people don't really look at the positive side of the issue. "HOW DARE THEY HAVE SLIGHTLY CHEAPER POP-TARTS?!? BURN THEM DOWN!" I think this is just like PETA and the Environmentalists and those college kids they had before. It's gonna be a bunch of people that only parrot back what someone told them and any real questions will just shatter their argument.
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/30 13:13That episode was extremely solid, and perhaps one of my favorite episodes they have ever did.
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mindme
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/31 11:47JoMadge wrote: In my city, Wal-Mart is just ... a department store. Surrounded by other department stores, a huge mall, dozens of grocery stores, etc. It's a good place to shop for certain things, but not for others.
The only "mom and pop" businesses I've seen fold around here were a couple used book stores that couldn't compete with Half Price, and a few antique stores that never really gained a foot hold. The Wal-Mart in my neighborhood took over the space that used to be a K-Mart. The smaller businesses around the space were delighted when Wal-Mart took it over and started drawing more customers into their vicinity again.
~JoMadge
My hometown freaked out about a Starbucks opening in the downtown. Oh, how it was going to destroy the local coffee shops. No one noticed there was no local coffee shop culture. Downtown Windsor looked a lot like Penn's hometown. Lots of empty store fronts. But somehow Starbucks was going to destroy all this. When I went home last winter, the only place with customers on the main drag was the Starbucks.
People are morons.
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Jabjabs
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/31 12:17Yeah And the breasts were exceptional this ep.
Yeah I know, they where bragging in series 3 or 4 four that they knew how to get naked people on, now they are just going for it where ever they can, I love it. So blatant.
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mindme
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/31 22:06Jabjabs wrote: Yeah And the breasts were exceptional this ep.
Yeah I know, they where bragging in series 3 or 4 four that they knew how to get naked people on, now they are just going for it where ever they can, I love it. So blatant.
You can see Goudeau (praise be his name) writing this stuff.
G: Okay. Hrm. Well, people are wearing tshirts in the show. Tshirts have to go on... and they have to come off. Eureka!
Were the child laborers Goudeau's kids (may the great xenu bless the holy children with bunny slippers)? I think they mentioned on Penn Radio they'd have them on.
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Mike
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/03/31 22:17Yeah, they were his kids.
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Pentomino
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/04/02 17:20I live in Phoenix, and the thing a neighborhood really worries about is if their nearest grocery store closes. Grocery stores serve as anchors to strip malls, and few strip malls can sustain themselves without one, especially now that video stores are fading out of fashion. Once the grocery store goes, the whole neighborhood goes to hell.
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Snerd
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/04/02 18:26Pentomino wrote: I live in Phoenix, and the thing a neighborhood really worries about is if their nearest grocery store closes. Grocery stores serve as anchors to strip malls, and few strip malls can sustain themselves without one, especially now that video stores are fading out of fashion. Once the grocery store goes, the whole neighborhood goes to hell. "SOON THERE'LL BE DANCING!" - Greg Fitzsimmons
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Parrot
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Re:Wal-Mart - 2007/04/03 12:46Here's one thing that should be mentioned: Walmart does out compete some stores within a certain radius. But it only does so to stores that are competing directly with itself. Walmart actually benefits businesses in close proximity to itself that are not in direct competition.
And not only does it benefit businesses already in existence, it also attracts new businesses and stores that don't compete directly with Walmart.
And while some "mom and pop" stores have suffered from the competition, these kinds of family businesses in general are nowhere near close to extinction.
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And the breasts were exceptional this ep.
Yeah I know, they where bragging in series 3 or 4 four that they knew how to get naked people on, now they are just going for it where ever they can, I love it. So blatant. 