Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 21:17I am really surprised no one else has mentioned this and why Penn did not say this was an option.
The show is already podcast, why not just keep podcasting it and quit doing the "to air" part ?
Penn already has said he loves doing the show, its obvious he enjoys it very much, talking about what interests him, hanging out with his celebrity freinds on the show, etc....
He owns the studio and all the electronic equipment to produce the show.
He has said he is not doing it for the money and would continue to do the show even if he was not being paid.
And the only reason he said the show was quitting was because of format reasons, that the format is not convienant for the radio networks, which I find odd as isnt there a lot of one hour radio shows on the air ?
So if the only problem is the format, why not just become a podcast show, like the thousands of other podcast shows out there. He wouldn't have to answer to anyone, do any format he likes, not have to obey censors, talk about what he wants with impunity, and in general have a lot more freedom with the show. It would be exactly like he is doing it now, but a lot less restrictive, there would actually be less effort involved in producing the show if it was podcast only.
Many people do podcast shows with just a laptop, headset microphone and some free server space. Penn has way better resources than all that, plus the personal income from his other ventures to keep everything fianced. I am not saying he owes it to us and I shoudl tell him how to spend his money, just that it doesnt seem like it would be all that expensive or any big deal for everything to continue as normal, just with less involvment from the network big wigs, which you think would be right up Penn's ally.
In fact, there are so many geeks that listen to Penn, that I am sure even if money were an issue, many of us could give him free server space and would maintain his website for free and keep the podcast and RSS feeds and everything running up to date for free. I have experince with podcasting,I know I will donate my time to maintin the website and podcast feeds. In fact this would also work perfectly whith what Penn always talks about where in stead of free air, that his listeners could all kick in a 25 cents per episode to listen to him and that would cover all the costs, I know I would.
So if your reading this Penn, what about that, how about if you became a donate money service, based on the honor system and everyone who listend would send you a quarter per episode to cover your costs.
At .25 an episode, 5 episodes pers week, 20 episodes per month (roughly) thats only $5 a month, its a cup of coffee and a donut, we can all do that can't we ? And I don't know how many listeners you have, but you easily have 1000 listeners, so do you think you could cover your costs and pay your employees for $5k a month ?
Whats everyone say ?
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Mike
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 21:36Im staying out of this one like a good little boy.
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Parrot
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 21:41I think that some of us suspect that he might do just that. He did hint that the show might be back in some other form.
If that's the case I would love to help him as well. I'm a web programmer, I'm sure I could help out somewhere.
Of course, I think he wants more than just the ability to record shows and paste them online. He'll want the capability to broadcast his show live over the Internet as well so that he can take calls.
Does he own that vanity number he got for the show, does anybody know? He's going to want the ability to setup that line so that calls can be answered on his computer. I'm guessing there's some way he can set that up over a network so that he can have somebody screening the calls.
There's a lot of things that would go into changing the show to a completely webcast format. I'm not sure of all the details myself, but I know that it would require making a lot of changes to the way his studio works.
So if that's what he's planning to do, it may take him a little while to get that set up and have all the bugs worked out. Somebody here also speculated that he may have a non-compete clause in his contract and may have to wait a few months in order to run a radio show again.
Whatever the case, I also hope that he'll be back. I'd definitely listen to a live webcast of the show. That's the only way I've ever caught the show live anyway
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Aston14
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 21:45I agree, if they put up a podcast I would listen, I would gladly pay for it as well. Plus, it would allow them to cover topics that may be taboo on regular radio. In addition, it would allow them to work around their schedules.
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gpsengr
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 22:18A couple of days ago, I sent this to Goudeau:
How about this: A new podcast / reverse time shift ? Penn would record anywhere, anytime in fragmented bits or continuous shows. Let's say he has lunch with Ron Jeremy & Al Goldstein, he would simply turn on the mike and record. He would turn it on/off as required during his day.
He could still take calls or do interviews, but instead the producers would CALL the callers. They would be pre-arranged based on e-mails sent to the show.
Often callers to talk shows are not screened well enough or don't have much to say. By having them first express their ideas concisely on paper, and then be selected by the producers/Penn, it is more likely that the conversations will be relevant and interesting.
In addition during some shows, Penn could assign "Homework" or topics for the listeners, who would write back with interesting stuff. It's time shifting, but backwards. All the interactive action would happen before the show. It's never been done before, as far as I know. The show would air on regular radio at regular times and the internet via podcasts.
What do you guys think?
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Mike
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 22:48It does not matter what so fucking ever what we think, Hes gone and he will not be back for awhile.
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Fishfarm2
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 23:00I agree with Mike. Your best bet is to just find a new interest.
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Parrot
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 23:00Mike wrote: It does not matter what so fucking ever what we think, Hes gone and he will not be back for awhile.
LOL - I knew you were lying when you said you were going to keep out of this.
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Mike
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/04 23:01Im an atheist , I cant be trusted. We all just need to shut our mouths and deal with it.
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goodfeets
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/05 01:25I'm not sure why you feel this way. Of course it is crazy to be overly optimistic, but based on things that Penn has said in the past, vague references in the final show, and email responces from Goudeau to well-wishers, it seems very likely that the show will return in some form.
I suspect they will be looking for another station, either radio or satellite, in which case things won't have to change much.
It is also very possible that they will find someone to set up a subscription podcast ala Ricky Gervais. I doubt the show will continue to be daily, but I'd be happy with a weekly podcast.
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JoMadge
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/05 02:03IMHO, there is nothing wrong with discussing the subject or tossing around our own ideas about what might happen. We're well aware that the official word is (paraphrasing) "maybe someday, but nothing is planned". That doesn't mean it isn't fun to conjecture about the future.
Besides, we're clearly demonstrating that an eager audience is ready should Penn decide to start up a radio/podcast/whatever show again. No harm in that, right?
~JoMadge
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Meerkat
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/05 02:31Parrot said: "There's a lot of things that would go into changing the show to a completely webcast format. I'm not sure of all the details myself, but I know that it would require making a lot of changes to the way his studio works."
I don't understand how there would be any changes to the studio or extra effort.
Your a web guy, as you say, so you know how extremly simple it is to make a podcast. You record with your computer, make a RSS feed and put up the link on your website and upload the audio file of course, very very simple.
His studio has computers, I would imagine they already record the show, if not it would be extremly simple to set them up to do so. As soon as the show is over, hit a few buttons and ftp the file up and update the feed.
Right now his show is sent to the air to be broadcast and uploaded as a podcast, so all that he would be doing is eliminating the "to air" broadcast and keeping the podcast portion. There would not be more to do, but less to do.
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JoMadge
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/05 03:32Meerkat wrote: Right now his show is sent to the air to be broadcast and uploaded as a podcast, so all that he would be doing is eliminating the "to air" broadcast and keeping the podcast portion. There would not be more to do, but less to do.
They'd have to have somebody record, prepare, and upload the show every day since FreeFM/CBS staff wouldn't be doing it for them. Then there's the storage, bandwidth, maintaining multiple phone lines, staff, website, and other work and expenses that were probably covered by FreeFM/CBS before.
Would the staff (Goudeau, Patrick, etc) work directly for Penn? For Penn and Teller's company? Who would handle payroll, benefits, taxes, etc?
Would the show be streamed live? A whole new set of technical issues and expenses. If not, how will they take calls? Somebody will need to be there to answer/screen those calls, or call people back at the right time, etc.
Maybe not as easy (or cheap) as it might seem at first glance.
~JoMadge
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Frank The Rabbit
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/05 03:58I'd pay.
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JoMadge
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Re:Why cant the show just continue to be podcast ? - 2007/03/05 04:41Frank The Rabbit wrote: I'd pay.
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