Moonlanding - 2007/02/05 22:28I'm one of those people who has doubts about the moon landing happening when it did. That out of the way,
I'm here to say, if the Moon landing was faked I would be PROUD! While Russia was spending billions on trying to get the the moon, we Fooled them! Still spending money, but we had the brilliant, out-of-the-box idea to trick the world!
We are deceived everyday by those we foolishly handed our lives over to, at least this lie could have, for once, helped!
thought?
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Wonko the Sane
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/05 23:55NO doubt I would be proud, because the technology that would have been required to fake a moon landing would have been at least a decade ahead of its time when the moon landing happened.
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mddawson
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/06 01:07How can you ignore the thousands of people worldwide involved in the moon landings? Surely if all these people were involved in some sort of fraud it would (1) Bankrupt the US Gov just to keep them quiet (2) Surely one of those involved would have come forward and admitted the hoax.
BTW I actually live about a 20 minute drive from the former Honeysuckle Creek tracking site that picked up the very first TV signals from the moon (and it is not the one shown in the movie 'The Dish').
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Snerd
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/06 11:45Guys... Everyone knows Jesus and Bigfoot faked the moon landing with the guy that was the best friend of the kid that ate Pop Rocks, drank Coke, and exploded. This same group also shot from the grassy knoll and planted the explosives on the bottom floor of the World Trade Center. Now, they had help on 9-11. Count Chocula helped them get it just right so it would look like a plane. How do I know it happened? Nostradamus said so.
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Vlad the Impala
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/06 13:11http://xkcd.com/c202.htmlthere is no possible use for a signature* except to demonstrate how funny/geeky/cynical/pathetic you are.
*including this one
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TheKen
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/06 17:52Snerd wrote: Guys... Everyone knows Jesus and Bigfoot faked the moon landing with the guy that was the best friend of the kid that ate Pop Rocks, drank Coke, and exploded. This same group also shot from the grassy knoll and planted the explosives on the bottom floor of the World Trade Center. Now, they had help on 9-11. Count Chocula helped them get it just right so it would look like a plane. How do I know it happened? Nostradamus said so.
Wow, I never thought of it like that before! Good points.
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Snerd
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/06 18:05TheKen wrote: Snerd wrote: Guys... Everyone knows Jesus and Bigfoot faked the moon landing with the guy that was the best friend of the kid that ate Pop Rocks, drank Coke, and exploded. This same group also shot from the grassy knoll and planted the explosives on the bottom floor of the World Trade Center. Now, they had help on 9-11. Count Chocula helped them get it just right so it would look like a plane. How do I know it happened? Nostradamus said so.
Wow, I never thought of it like that before! Good points. I'm so sorry... I'm wrong. This was all said in the book of Revelation. Sorry.
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Parrot
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/06 21:27The biggest nail in the coffin of the moon landing hoax believers: The Russians were monitoring all transmissions from the moon. It's very easy to tell if a transmission is coming from earth or the moon. The Russians would have known immediately if there was some funny business going on.
In order to keep believing that the moon landing was a hoax, you would have to believe that the US government somehow convinced the Russian government to be quiet on the issue.
Pretty far fetched.
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cgc13
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/06 22:32The only thing that really gets me is that strange footage of Earth's view through the window.
I wish they got to that point on yesterdays show.
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jbuck
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/07 00:21I rember seeing a documentry about how we didnt land on the moon. I can't find it at the moment though.
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The clementine photo they made so much hay about. I'm surprised no one bothered to mention there was also a much more energetic blast off from the moon surface that would have kicked up more dust. I dunno, you see a little black blotch. The dust cleared away by the engines to reveal the darker moon surface?
I loved Goudeau jumping in about the Van Allen belts having a hole around the poles. That shut him up. The Van Allen belt argument is a plain stupid one to begin with. We can measure it. We can calculate whether or not an astronaut would get a lethal dose. They don't.
The radiation is actually evidence that the astronauts went to the Moon. Thirty-three of the thirty-six Apollo astronauts involved in the nine Apollo missions to leave Earth orbit have early stage cataracts that have been shown to be caused by radiation exposure to cosmic rays during their trip. (see Ms. Irene Schneider on The Space Show), the November 20, 2005 show.
The whole bit about the astronauts looking odd during their press conference. DUDE THEY JUST CAME BACK FROM THE MOON. How are people who have just walked on the moon (and as Penn points out, spent the last week crapping in a bag) supposed to look? Ummmm, normal?
The Clinton quote was another bit of crap.
"The old carpenter asked me if I really believed it happened. I said sure, I saw it on television. He disagreed; he said that he didn't believe it for a minute, that "them television fellers" could make things look real that weren't. Back then, I thought he was a crank. During my eight years in Washington, I saw some things on TV that made me wonder if he wasn't ahead of his time."
He's just trying to comment that you can't believe everything you see on TV. They can fake things TODAY. It's not a sly admission that the moon landings were a hoax.
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teen
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/07 02:37He is probably refering to painted backdrops in interviews.. i'll bet that impresses him...
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mddawson
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/07 05:40Quote: "The clementine photo they made so much hay about. I'm surprised no one bothered to mention there was also a much more energetic blast off from the moon surface that would have kicked up more dust. I dunno, you see a little black blotch. The dust cleared away by the engines to reveal the darker moon surface?"
I am pretty sure that the top section of the lunar lander blasted off from the legs/base and this would have shielded the moon from the direct blast of the rocket engine during liftoff.
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gabe_utsecks
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/07 05:51I have never doubted the U.S. had the capacity to land on the moon in 1969, but I have always asked the question "why land on the moon when you can fake it?"
When a country is in the middle of an arms race, a technology race, and more importantly a propaganda war, why not just shoot the damn thing in a studio while the other guys shove all of their resources into actually going into space and landing on the moon?
I don't understand why some skeptics attempt to prove that we didn't have the technology or capability to do it. It's similar to when pro-choice people start talking about how the embryo is the size of a period at the end of a sentence. Okay, maybe it's not too similar except in that they are both arguments that are straying from the point.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious that over a long period of time, it could probably take more resources to fake it than to actually land on the moon, mostly to keep people quiet and whatnot.
And to reply to the originator of this topic, I too would be proud if we had successfully faked a moon landing.
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gabe_utsecks
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Re:Moonlanding - 2007/02/07 05:51I have never doubted the U.S. had the capacity to land on the moon in 1969, but I have always asked the question "why land on the moon when you can fake it?"
When a country is in the middle of an arms race, a technology race, and more importantly a propaganda war and a war of intimidation, why not just shoot the damn thing in a studio while the other guys shove all of their resources into actually going into space and landing on the moon?
I don't understand why some skeptics attempt to prove that we didn't have the technology or capability to do it. It's similar to when pro-choice people start talking about how the embryo is the size of a period at the end of a sentence. Okay, maybe it's not too similar except in that they are both arguments that are straying from the point.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious that over a long period of time, it could probably take more resources to fake it than to actually land on the moon, mostly to keep people quiet and whatnot.
And to reply to the originator of this topic, I too would be proud if we had successfully faked a moon landing.
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